“Learn about one of the greatest business opportunities ever offered to the American public,” the ad said. “Your cost is dinner at Mr. Steer.”

Dalenberg said yes before the waitress even got both words out. Then she said to me, “You should try the prime rib dinner here on Friday night. It’s really good and not expensive.”

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“Everyone’s into herbs today,” said Dalenberg. “They’re popular and chic. They help you stop craving the wrong foods. I go to a lot of business meetings with my clients and look at a lot of their business papers–and I have quite an educated opinion about these things.”

The Chinese herbal concentrates Dalenberg was talking about–in the hopes I’d want to sell them too, and become a rich woman–undergo processing that leaves their “synergistic structure intact.”

Marcia had a big white pad on which she had outlined all this information–much of it highlighted in red pyramids. She kept turning pages, creating a swirl or words, numbers, dollar signs, and percentages.

Dalenberg turned a page to a listing of every level in the pyramid. It’s possible at one level to earn anywhere from $20,000 to $100,000 per month, she claimed, pointing to the chart. The company generates over $300 million every year. “There’s a lot put into research and development,” Dalenberg said.

“Nothing is ever sprayed on the herbs. If anything ever was, and our founder found out about it, he’d turn them back, or destroy them. At the pharmaceutical factory in Taiwan, where the herbs are processed, the water coming out of the factory is cleaner than the water that goes in. Of course, the water that comes out from the toilets is kept separate, you understand.”